Dec 15, 2008, 11:37 AM CET: The contest is now officially over, and the winners of PALIT Folding Challenge 2008 are announced on a separate page. Once again, congratulations to all members…we’ve made into top 400 teams!
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- We folded more than 5.3 million points…
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- …translating into more than 13.000 completed work units.
[...] TBSIT and PALIT Folding@Home Challenge 2008 Posted by: theovalich | November 13, 2008 [...]
By: ANNOUNCEMENT: Folding@Home Challenge 2008 « Theo’s Bright Side Of IT on November 13, 2008
at 18:45
Huraaaaa
Lets fold
hehe
By: Boris on November 13, 2008
at 22:14
Everybody’s welcome
By: Theo Valich on November 14, 2008
at 00:50
Let’s Rock and Roll…and find some cures…!
By: Francisc on November 14, 2008
at 21:14
lets do this thing
….. oh im the new guy … but been folding on my ps3 since i got it 
By: dragoon1101 on November 15, 2008
at 22:28
i see you have 10 licenses for 3dmark. Does this mean that you will deal out 1 3dmark license to each person, or all 10 to the person in the second place?
By: Eyvind Niklasson on November 17, 2008
at 15:28
What would a person do with 10 licenses?
10 licenses will be given out from 2nd to 11th place. This was just the first giveaway I organized… hopefully by next time, I will be able to offer even more awards
By: Theo Valich on November 17, 2008
at 15:41
Sweet, thnx
By: Eyvind Niklasson on November 18, 2008
at 14:47
How do you calculate the stats? The daily PPD values from Kakao Stats don’t match the ones on your table…
By: Chipicao on November 21, 2008
at 20:40
Hi Chipicao,
the table is calculated everyday at midnight CET using KakaoStats.com. The table at that time is copied into excel spreadsheet and the difference in points between two days is the final number.
Bear in mind that KakaoStats checks for last 24 hours, not 24 hours from midnight to midnight, but from update to the update that happened 24 hours ago.
The difference exists, but it is marginal. The “problem” is that KakaoStats is overly optimistic when it comes to units (nV cards for instance, get more and more 511 point packets that are slower than default 480 ones – ATI cards really slowed down with the latest version of the f@h core), while Extremeoverclocking is too pesimistic
By: Theo Valich on November 21, 2008
at 22:38
Hello Theo,
Thank you for your answer, but I still don’t quite get it…
I understand that the main table (for the team) shows points “from update to the update that happened 24 hours ago”, but I’m not talking about that one. I’m looking at individual user stats.
Let’s take the first member for example (Boris): http://kakaostats.com/usum.php?u=1365569
The third table (Update History …) shows all updates from each day, at different time intervals. The only thing that matters is that it takes all updates at the same intervals for every day. So the sum of those (listed in the last column) should be precise PPD values in my opinion.
By: Chipicao on November 21, 2008
at 23:38
how the heck are they getting so many points ????? each update…
By: dragoon1101 on November 22, 2008
at 04:13
Well, if you deploy 6-10 GPUs, you will get massive amount of points. I am tinkering with idea of putting 6 water-cooled GTX280 cards on X58 Revolution board. That would give a single computer roughly 45-50K PPD, and that’s just in a single computer. FASTRA delivers roughly 38K PPD, for instance. Francisc had 9800GX2, 9800GTX, 8800GT and several other cards… but where did he found additional 10-15K PPD, have no idea.
RE: Chipicao – PPM are calculated on the base of what was the number of points achieved (not PPD, but overall number) at a certain time of day. Then, overall number of points is decreased by the number that user had when he joined the competition. PPM is not PPD times 30.
By: Theo Valich on November 22, 2008
at 07:23
dragoon1101
here is my points from work place
http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=borisromacfmondr3.jpg
@ home I have Ps3 and one very fast PC with 8800 GTS 512
another 10 mashines are server CPU clients.
By: Boris on November 22, 2008
at 08:55
I still don’t get it why it take’s so much to update the table …
By: Simbad on November 22, 2008
at 13:48
Correct Theo, as long as you got the numbers of all users when the competition started. And I’m sure you have
I’m just saying that PPD1+PPD2+…+PPD31 is also a good way of keeping count (not PPD*31). Hope you got my ideea
Simbad, could check all users and keep track of their score? If so, then you have a lot of free time, perhaps Theo doesn’t
By: Chipicao on November 22, 2008
at 14:22
so if he has all those cards …why would he need the card your giving away…lol heck i only have my 8800gt so it looks like ill be getting a vantage code at least buy the looks of the board above
oh francisc can send me his old GX2 if he wins the card … LMAO
By: dragoon1101 on November 22, 2008
at 17:19
quick question my GPU is putting out ~440 ns/day is that good? i never payed att. to it on my PS# but have been reading up on it im just curious if mine is preforming decent or not ???
By: dragoon1101 on November 22, 2008
at 18:25
RE: Simbad – from tonight onwards, I am going to refresh the table every night (CET).
RE: Dragoon1101 – well, I’ve been disposed of the first place, but that was expected. It is great to see guys such as Boris and Francisc pulling some serious computational power. For next contest, I have my ideas, and it will be more open that this one – sadly, with 11 awards and 20 members (when the contest started), I could not exactly give out random prizes.
RE: Dragoon1101 – when it comes to points, 440ns/day is a really good figure. Anything higher than 400 is good, and best cards out there can do 600-650ns (EVGA GTX280SSC). But the number of simulation in nanoseconds/day depends on actual molecules that are being folded – if the packet is more demanding, the ns number will go down. Nothing to be worried about
By: theovalich on November 22, 2008
at 18:48
thanks 4 the response
By: dragoon1101 on November 22, 2008
at 19:05
Dragoon1101: you only have 1 card :O
Do you keep your comp on 24/7.
Theo, I think that this is an extemely good comptetition, but I was thinking, is there any other way to measure who comes first. In this case, those who have the best hardware to fold will win the best prizes
Lol, just my 2 cents :p
By: Eyvind Niklasson on November 25, 2008
at 09:27
Dragoon1101: you only have 1 card :O
Do you keep your comp on 24/7.
Theo, I think that this is an extemely good comptetition, but I was thinking, is there any other way to measure who comes first. In this case, those who have the best hardware to fold will win the best prizes
Dragoon: is there anything special you do to increase your points? (i also have only an 8800GT)
Lol, just my 2 cents :p
By: Eyvind Niklasson on November 25, 2008
at 09:28
Hi Eyvind,
This was the first competition and I know that it wasn’t perfect. Like I already wrote, I had 20 users in my folding group and 11 prizes… out of which one was invaluable one.
For the next competition, that is already planned and will come in Q1
, the way to give out prizes will be different and more fair for everyone.
But, you cannot win a signed GTX280 with 200 contributed points. My goal for this was to start utilizing CPU and GPU cycles for something good – after all, this is Bright Side of IT, not the gloomy one.
I am keeping my computer running 24×7, and currently, only one 9800GX2 is folding. Starting this week, I am bringing two GTX280 and two 4870X2s… for 4870X2, I am bringing the new client and that’s a subject of a whole new story…
By: theovalich on November 25, 2008
at 10:48
First of all, sorry for the double post
(pressed it twice by accident)
I really agree that this is a great way to spend gpu/cpu cycles!
If you felt that i was criticizing, i’m very sorry; i didn’t mean to !
I was also thinking, I have had read a lot of rumour about the -advmethods flag! Does this really increase your points per month overall?
By: Eyvind Niklasson on November 25, 2008
at 14:31
[...] PALIT Folding@Home Challenge 2008 Posted by: theovalich | November 26, 2008 [...]
By: Folding@Home Challenge stats now updated daily… « Theo’s Bright Side Of IT on November 26, 2008
at 00:27
Theo,možeš li mi reći nešto više o klijentu za Ati grafiku,jer trenutno Ati4850 ima samo ~3200 ppd
Hvala
By: joza on November 26, 2008
at 07:51
joza, mislim 3200PPD je prilično dobra za 4850. U većini slučajeva ljudi ostvaruju niže vrijednosti.
P.S. Molim vas da govorite engleski
[26.11.2008 11:05AM CET - Sorry Chippy, ali ne mozes se predstavljati kao predstavnik ovog bloga. Komentar je promjenjen u tvoje osobno stajaliste. Iako se slazem s tobom, na ovom blogu komentare mogu davati na kojem god jeziku razumijem - eng/hrv/njem - i da to ne traje dulje od pitanja/odgovor. - theo]
By: Chipicao on November 26, 2008
at 10:50
Croatian: 3200PPD za 4850… dovraga, ta Diamondica je stvarno zakon. Meni 4870X2 ostvaruje 3000-3500 PPD.
English: Diamond 4850 achieves 3200 PPD… blimey! My ATI 4870X2 on a single GPU achieves 3000-3500 PPD… albeit without the new core.
RE: Chipicao – sorry lad, but you cannot pose as a moderator or chief of this blog. That responsibility goes solely on my shoulders.
By: theovalich on November 26, 2008
at 11:14
Sorry, theo, but you missunderstood me. I wasn’t imposing him to speak English, I was mearly asking so that we all understand.
I really can’t see how I was “posing” as a moderator… I think you overreacted!
By: Chipicao on November 26, 2008
at 12:02
Apologies then. I did acted a bit paranoid, but that was a given after having identity theft issues with people who posed as me.
It seems that some people hate the name of the site, and think that everything should be doom and gloom. Well, back to writing news then. Thanks for the explanation
By: Theo Valich on November 26, 2008
at 12:35
Yeah, keep them coming (the news)!
By: Chipicao on November 26, 2008
at 13:40
I am really having problems deciding how to make my system most efficient. I have a C2D at 3 ghz, and a xfx 8800 card overclocked to 740/1780/1030. Which are the best flags I can use to make them produce more points per day (right now I have forceasm on both, without advmethods)
By: Eyvind Niklasson on November 27, 2008
at 00:46
What’s wrong with Kakaostats today?I am folding all day long, but there is still zero points in my 24h column.
By: IgorBuzdum on November 27, 2008
at 00:48
i let it run 24/7 (sorry been out) and i didnt do anything else
By: dragoon1101 on November 27, 2008
at 01:20
im also running a amd quad core 9950 X4 (140w ) on a k9n2 platinum and vista ultamate so i dont know if this helps my situation or not i just wish i was makin more headway than i am now i also let my ps3 do folding when im not playing on it
By: dragoon1101 on November 27, 2008
at 01:29
Well guys, due to lack of responsiveness from KakaoStats.com, I had to postpone the stats update. I cannot combine Kakao and Extremeoverclocking, since that would jeopardize the integrity.
Well, expect a 2-day update tonight…
By: theovalich on November 27, 2008
at 09:39
HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE “gobble gobble”
By: dragoon1101 on November 27, 2008
at 19:32
[...] PALIT Folding@Home Challenge 2008 Posted by: theovalich | November 27, 2008 [...]
By: Happy Thanksgiving! « Theo’s Bright Side Of IT on November 27, 2008
at 23:04
Yay, we are at Top 500…yay…go team
By: matrixcore on November 30, 2008
at 12:07
Bet ya we can make it to the top 300 by the end of the year if we continue like this
Theo’s team rullz!
By: Radu_Neagu_RO on November 30, 2008
at 16:00
sweet was loooking at the points stats on extremeoverclocking and there was a huge points jump within the last month an a half i think we will climb that ladder very quickly over the next few months witch i will be happy to see
(only ~499 to go till first lol)
By: dragoon1101 on November 30, 2008
at 19:56
Bear in mind that when the site launches, this will become an official Folding group of the site, followed with an open community forum and yes, there will be events – stay tuned
My goal is not to have the best results, but to have a best supported folding team in the world, and get discussions going with various professors and enthusiasts from the field.
All open to suggestions, you know the e-mail address.
By: Theo Valich on December 1, 2008
at 11:20
someone put the cement shoes on me when i reached 7th place LOL
By: dragoon1101 on December 6, 2008
at 07:38
hay theo i need some “directon” onb how to properly overclock my gpu i dont wanna overdue it and fry it i just installed a 9800gtx+ from foxconn and its getting ~500 ns now (~60ns more then the 8800gt oc ) i wanna overclock the new card but am unsure what i can and cant do do you know a webpage that has a very detailed description(sp?) of what i can and cant do
i DL’ed riva tunjer and aint quite sure what to do to it … ive never overclocked a GPU just a CPU id appriciate any help i can get or to be pointed in the right direction THANKS
By: dragoon1101 on December 7, 2008
at 03:34
Heya Dragoon, first and foremost, go for 100 MHz increments. GPU clock does not matter at all, it’s the shader clock that you should be gunning for.
Thus, you can leave the GPU clock at default. I had ASUS 9800GTX (without the +), and the default clock was 755 MHz for the core and 1815 MHz for the shaders. That card works today in 760 / 2115 MHz, or 300 MHz overclock of the shaders. That was enough to get the ppd rate from 6400 ppd to 7100 – almost as good as default clocked GTX280.
As far as your card is concerned, you should have no problems with reaching the 2015 MHz mark, since even old 65nm 9800GTX chips can do it. You should go step by step and check packet by packet will you get “unstable machine” error or not. I’ve tried with ATI_tool load test, and shaders passed at 2215 MHz, but F@H returned “Unstable Machine” error, thus I am more inclined to check performance in actual client, rather than relying on synthetics that will load parts of the core that aren’t going to be used at all.
For F@H, shaders are all that matters (and them changing data with local memory store – or the reason why ATI lacked so much…).
By: theovalich on December 7, 2008
at 03:56
ok my clock ar as follows core 740, shader 1836, memory is at 1100. its showing max for each is core 1110, shader 2755, memory 1650. that is what is at the end of the little pointers in riva tuner …
are you saying i can just increase the shaders to get better f@h scores ? what would be the max i could get out of this card? im kinda iffy about all this but wanna do it … and do it right what is the max temp i should be looking at also, its running at 54c right now and i do want to keep an eye on that im sure so i dont burn it up. i hope this aint to much to ask about …..
By: dragoon1101 on December 7, 2008
at 04:47
Well, these scores are for those that plan to use LN2 and do some hard core overclocking… 2035 MHz is your safe bet, anything above that would be grand.
54C is nothing for a card that usually works at 80C… if you get stable 2100-2150, you can consider yourself very lucky. With stock cooling, of course.
It’s no bother
By: Theo Valich on December 7, 2008
at 13:44
wel ive played with it all i can get out of the shaders befor F@H crashes is 2015 so ill leave it at that for now atm im runnin 750,2015,1150 so hopefully that will get me better performance in F@H
we will see in the next few days if my ppd increase
By: dragoon1101 on December 7, 2008
at 17:01
The team is progressing well and we all really need to be satisfied and continue with the good work.
Kurko & Radu You really contributing much, What hardware you use for folding ?
By: Boris on December 9, 2008
at 14:14
Well, I think it would be a cool idea if people here would write what are they folding on…
I am currently folding on Palit GeForce GTX280 and GeForce 9800GX2, but I have to reinstall Windows – both Vista and XP fell apart
Neeext
By: Theo Valich on December 9, 2008
at 16:12
at work: 9800gx2 and good old ultra, home: 8800gts 512 and 9800gtx+ …and some other little stuff
. Theo: the signed Palit is like yours? 
By: Francisc on December 10, 2008
at 18:57
I don’t have a signed Palit GTX280… I just have a bog standard card…
Signed card has your name on it, given by all accounts…
By: Theo Valich on December 10, 2008
at 19:53
im folding on a foxconn 9800gtx+ (55nm) on my main and a evga 8800gt oc on the other comp i built last night and my PS3 of course
By: dragoon1101 on December 12, 2008
at 23:01
So, how’d I do? My team name is FuriousFandango. I believe I got 4th…?
I must say, it was not an easy job. I left my launch day EVGA GTX 280 (with super squealy capacitors) on all day and night while I slept. I also built two X58 rigs for my friends for free, and as payment, I had their Core 216s fold under my name as well. According to Folding stats, I was getting around 9,500 PPD….all for a scrawny little 3DMark Vantage key which I already have.
Are you sure there won’t be other prizes Theo?
By: AuDioFreaK39 on December 15, 2008
at 06:38
Heya AudioFreak,
well, first of all, thank you for your contribution, it was awesome having you onboard and I hope you’ll stay in the future.
This contest was a bit of “thank you” to this small team that is neatly going up the ranks. You can rest assure than in 2009, there will be plenty of more stuff to win, and I am tweaking up rules. The problem with the first contest was the fact that I had 11 prizes and 19 team members…
In future, you can expect EVGA-style giveaways, with random winners… and winners of hefty prizes will well, earn that in old fashioned way
I still need your snail mail address because you didn’t won the key, but the whole shabbang
By: Theo Valich on December 15, 2008
at 12:03
It’s not much, but I think I’ll throw in my 4850e cpu… which is doing nothing most of the day…
By: Thorsten Wolf on December 19, 2008
at 07:38
I have to say i am amazed. AudoiFreak you sure you aren’t getting a little too little PPD. I just tweaked some settings, and I am now making 9800PPD WOOT WOOT only on two core 2s and an 8800GT and a 8600GT
By: Eyvind Niklasson on December 31, 2008
at 15:17
Theo, I’ve got a question. I have been reading about the forceasm and advmethods flags, and I can’t really decide which gives more points/is more productive. I have 4 clients. The first one is an overclocked 8800GT, the second one is a slightly overclocked 8600GT, the third one is an e6700 (2.66GHZ) overlocked to 3ghz, and the fourth is an e7000 something (its 45nm and it runs at 2.66ghz, its not overclocked). Which flags should I put on which clients? (i know the competition is finished, but I still want to make the best of my hardware).
By: Eyvind Niklasson on January 1, 2009
at 08:01
Thank you Theo, Palit and NVIDIA for everything.
I’ll will put ASAP this card to work
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By: Francisc on February 4, 2009
at 14:31
Hi Theo do you no wen the next folding comp will be plees?
i mite get a new GPU for the next one. we have gon up the rancking quite good just lately. i am quite proud of the teem efert.
By: tapper on February 12, 2009
at 00:41
Hi Tapper,
well, I am tied up to launching the new site – hence the lack of updates on this side, I am keeping the one news a day policy. When the new site launches, there will be a lot of good things happening, a lot of user-driven actions. I can’t talk in details now (and spoil the surprise), but the next distributed computing challenge will be even more exciting than the first one. As I said, this was not one-time thing, but rather beginning of ways how to get community activated for important things.
Next contest will be based upon computer-based draw as well, not by number of points contributed.
By: theovalich on February 12, 2009
at 03:48
Ok Theo thanks. I awate with bated breth. D:
By: tapper on February 12, 2009
at 10:57
Noob here……tri-sli. Is there something I should do differently to maximize my “potential”? Is there any benenfit to running both CPU and GPU versions of F@H?
790i Ultra SLI
E3110(E8400)
9800 GTX+
Thanks.
By: RJMay3 on February 27, 2009
at 06:47
Well, F@H GPU2 client will task one of your cpu cores, so it is best to run the gpu client alone.
If you’re running 3-Way SLI, it has to be disabled and three displays should run a virtual display – F@H needs a virtual DX screen to draw on.
If there is anything i can to do help, let me know
By: Theo Valich on February 27, 2009
at 13:55
Ok…first things…. “reply” doesn’t work becasue after I write my message, it wants my “info”, and there wasn’t a field that I saw for it in “reply”.
Now…
running the CPU version is counterproductive, since it will slow the faster GPU version…. I think I get that.
Running SLI is of no benefit to F@H, since it doesn’t speed up the one process it can run. If I disable SLI and run multiple processes simultaneously, do I need to have a monitor plugged into each vid card to pull it off? If so, can I trick it by using a KVM switch?
By: RJMay3 on February 27, 2009
at 19:46
Sorry if I’m being difficult. I just want to optimize my big rig for F@H. I’ve got 2 comps running it since yesterday and I’m already climbing the ranks.
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By: RJMay3 on February 27, 2009
at 19:57
You’re not difficult, you’re welcomed. It is always good to see enthusiasm.
What I would advise is to just put a DVI-D-SUB adapter on the card, and output a virtual monitor from it (monitor number 3, given that you should have 1-2-3-4 – 1 is enabled by default, enable 3rd one as well).
Do you have any problems in installing two versions of F@H?
You should have C:\Program Files\Folding@home\Folding@home-gpu
and
C:\Program Files\Folding@home\Folding@home-gpu0
and
C:\Program Files\Folding@home\Folding@home-gpu1 (if you’re running Tri-SLI), and desktop shortcuts to all of them.
Then, go to C:\Documents and Settings\Theo\Application Data\Folding@home-gpu
(my user account is theo, you should switch it to your default user name)
Copy “cudart.dll” to each and every F@H folder, and then you’re almost good to go.
Edit every shortcut with “-gpu 0″, “-gpu 1″, “-gpu 2″ switches…
You can also see a detailed walkthrough with pictures at:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=568770
By: theovalich on February 28, 2009
at 00:39
Thanks for the tips. I’ve been mucking around with some settings to dial it in. Is it common to see a 100 watt increase in power consumption when F@H is active? I have noticed that having F@H “displayed” uses quite a bit of resources. I only have the display shown for those few moments I’m checking the iteration rate or the nanoseconds.
Still learning as I go along. I did get the twitter request, but sadly I don’t twitter yet….only signed up to reserve my name.
Thanks for your help.
Rob
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at 21:44
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By: LitItaree on March 5, 2009
at 14:10
Hey!
I can see 10th place from here…. ;o)
By: RJMay3 on March 21, 2009
at 05:30